. >> and basically hand power to nancy pelosi. >> again. that has been the precedent. >> governor, a lot of talk -- there's been a lot of talk about defense cuts, which certainly are half of the sequester. there are other programs being cut. 9.4% to unemployment benefits, 600,000 children and women lose food aid, 10,000 teachers fired. they're trying to emerge from the rock of being unsympathetic to the working poor, the middle class. you have these sequester cuts take place that undermines any argument. >> i depart from democratic orthodoxy in this one. i so bad want to cut all the fat out of the pentagon that i'm willing to do this. it's terrible. i hope we can restore some of the things. 2% medicaid cuts don't have any effect on patient care whatsoever. it is true that there are some bad cuts in there from a democratic point of view. we are never again going to get a chance to cut the pentagon back from where it's been. pentagon hasn't had any significant cuts for 30 years. a lot of money that's going to be cut is money that was not aske